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[nemo | Bejingler]

Im a beginning ripper and mostly I'll be ripping anime. I tried every single combination with DVD2AVI and TMPGEnc so that the final mpeg file is 23.97 FPS. All I got was choppiness. The only non choppy result was when i unchecked force film in DVD2AVI and then encoded at 29.97fps in TMPGEnc. I would like to have the final result at 23.97, because I want a smaller file size and the encoding process to be faster. The particular DVDs im haveing trouble with are Neon Genesis Evangelion and Gasaraki. Both manufactured by ADV! hmmmmm.

ANY HELP WOULD BE GREAT!!! THANKS

[Vejita-sama]

First why do you want 23.976fps so much? The file size is NOT dependant on the frame rate (or the resolution, or the size of your source) but on the bitrate you use.

So at 2000kbit/s each sec will be that size (resolution, frame rate, etc doesn't matter). Framerate and resolution affect picture quaility thou.

Second, encoding anime is tricky because it's made from a 'non-standard' source. Often anime is drawn at 20fps, but the op/ed is at 23.976fps, with parts at 29.97. Then there are computer generated overlays at 60fps (fields per sec). etc. etc. The result is that no normal IVTC process can handle all the different formats.

You best best is to turn off force film in DVD2AVI, encode at 29.97fps, and encode to a MPEG2 file (SVCD/xSVCD/DVD) since MPEG2 supports interlaced source.

Gasaraki and Evangelion are perfect examples of why it's hard to encode anime (crest of the starts would be another good example). The background, characters, FX, etc. are all made from different source rates.

[nemo | Bejingler]

Untrue. The Fps does play a role in the file size, 24fps is 24 still pictures encoded for each second, 30fps is 30 still pictures encoded for each second, thats 6fps per a second that you are saying have a size of 0k.

[Conquest10]

you are incorrect. bitrate is what decides the size of the file. if you do a file at cbr of 1500 one at 29 and one at 23 they will be the same size.

[nemo | Bejingler]

sry, my bad.



But I used the same exact settings for two files, one for 29fps and the other using IVTC to get 23fps and there was a significant file size difference.

[WeedVender]

That framerate can go both ways but what really increases Video is resolution and bitrate...

[fossil]

well to deinterlace anime, here's what i do.

use dvd2avi to frameserver. then load the .d2v file in tmpenc. goto settings and check automatic ivtc, use odd-even feild (adatption).
after that step the source will be 23.976. save as .tpr then laod in the fake avi creator. with the fake AVI, then you load it up in Vdub.
there you go.

[nemo | Bejingler]

@fossil

ok after i load into vdub, then what?

[fossil]

after you load it in Vdub after all those step you can jsut treat it like any other movies. make sure add subtitles =P

[1badfish]

Hey nemo | Bejingler

I have backup Gasaraki #1, #2, and #3, #4 DVD to XVCD. My Sony 650 will not play SVCD, but it will play VCD and XVCD. I have very good image quality in the dark parts of the movies. I used CladDVD=>TMPGnc (modify temp to xcvd & Bit rate about 1000 with cbr)=>Ulead Movie Factory; this was one of my first DVD to XVCD backup. Good luck. :P

[n0lamers]

I'm a fellow anime ripper. I do this for 29.97fps interlaced (non-telecined) source:
Smartripper--DVD2AVI--VFAPI Convert--Virtualdub(VobSub)--Aviutl--TMPGEnc to mpeg1 for vcd 2.0 using NTSC template(not film)--VCDEasy

***notice there is no force film or IVTC(because pattern isn't 3 prgogressive/2interlaced) When the source is interlaced--the interlacing lines get squished when the resolution goes from something like 720x480 to 352x240. I resize to 480x480 during the subbing/adding number logos to my menu's for PBC step in virtualdub, so that I keep the number's and sub's aspect ratio while not losing any vertical resolution because I want only the final product to 'get squished', not my subs or numbers. The result is video/audio that is as perfectly smooth as the DVD, no chops even with fast motion. While only being at 1,150kbps, I can get 1 opening, 2 episodes, 2 endings, outtakes, and full motion menus w/ audio including main,extras,and scene access on one CD! I could probably get three ep's if I didn't want it to look professional, but I like my vcd's to be as close to the DVD as possible. I don't see the need to increase my bitrate and make larger episodes when I like the quality of mine @vcd2.0. I am waiting for someone to help me with the antialiasing factor (jagged lines) though, that squishing the source creates. I heard you can use smart deinterlacer, and I thought I heard something about a line correcting filter for the 'jaggies', but I haven't been able to find that....or figure out when I would need to deinterlace, like what step--before subtitles I guess?

Can anyone help me deinterlace and keep my video just as smooth as it is now, and make it where its not any bigger in file size, doesn't mess up my logo's/subs, and doesn't go out of sync with the .wav audio???

[nemo | Bejingler]

Thanks for all the help! I've learned alot. .


@n0lamers
I think TMPGEnc has a deinterlace option

[nemo | Bejingler]

Im just gonna keep this as the main anime ripping post, so anything to do with ripping anime go in here plz

found a good site for anime rippers, check it out

http://svcdguide.animeaddiction.net/

[fossil]

that guide has been out for a while.
well i usually use the deinterlace option in TMpenc.

[nemo | Bejingler]

Thought this mite help all you ppl out there trying to subs, it was a pain in the ass for me to first learn how to do it.

http://www.wideopenwest.com/~cdhmri5/sub.html